What is your Jujutsu?

**Jason H** · 12-04-2004, 15:07

Sorry I hadn't gotten back on this one Jim, I spaced it a bit

Sensei Rossi sees self defense as a strategic encounter: every technique has a counter and every counter move has itself a counter technique, very much like the game of chess. Checkmate is achieved (as I'm sure you well know) when one player has the other player in a position where he or she has no options in the game left to them, therefore loses.

Mr Rossi doesn't teach self defense as a "game", he simply uses the chess analogy as a means to explain his philosophy.

**gr455h0pp3r** · 12-15-2004, 23:21

I have done a few lessons in Daito Ryu Aiki jujutsu and for what its worth and i was fascinated.

www.aikiaustralia.com.au

**Hakko** · 02-11-2005, 01:07

Hakko Denshin Ryu. This is more or less a "political" split from the original Hakko Ryu.

I study under Gil Adams Shihan at the Pasadena Academy of Self Defense.

**nishoy1** · 02-15-2005, 10:06

Yoshin Ryu, when i actually can make it. i study under jarvis kolen

**Mark Barlow** · 02-15-2005, 12:14

I study Akayama Ryu Jujutsu, a branch of Jikishinkage Ryu Aikijujutsu. My instructor was Alex Marshall, a Defensive Tactics instructor for several years and a Black Belt in Judo & Aikido. We're a tradition based, gendai system and include blade and staff training in our curriculum. We currently have dojo in Louisiana, Alabama and Trinidad.

**Gunyo Kogusoku** · 02-16-2005, 20:08

Tenjin Shinyo-ryu jujutsu under Kubota Toshihiro sensei.

A koryu from the late edo jidai that was influential in the formulation of Kodokan judo. Kano Jigoro recieved Menkyo Kaiden in Tenjin Shinyo-ryu from the 3rd generation headmaster, Iso Masatomo after his original teacher, Fukuda Hachinosuke passed away.

The school is an amalgamation of techniques that come from Yoshin-ryu and Shin No Shindo-ryu. A lot of techniques in Tenjin Shinyo-ryu are still apparent in Kodokan judo, such as osoto gari, de ashi barai, kuchiki taoshi, seoi nage, waki gatame, juji gatame, sode guruma, tsuki komi jime hadaka jime, etc.

**Aaron T Fields** · 02-17-2005, 12:48

Yabe-ryu ju-jutsu, judo, and sombo (while living overseas.) Yabe is a meji period, judo-esque offshoot of Tenjin Shinyo ryu that shows up with the two brothers moving around the United States early in the 1900's.

Aaron Fields
www.seattle-jujutsu.org

**Mekugi** · 02-18-2005, 01:38

Aaron, can you tell us a little more about Yabe ryu and how you came to study it?

-Russ

Originally Posted by Aaron T Fields

Yabe is a meji period, judo-esque offshoot of Tenjin Shinyo ryu that shows up with the two brothers moving around the United States early in the 1900's.

Aaron Fields
www.seattle-jujutsu.org

**Aaron T Fields** · 02-18-2005, 09:36

The Yabe brothers were in Rochester New York, lived in the area for some time. (I have news paper articles from some of there barnstorming events.) They left some folks as teachers when they left, and I trained with one of the lines.

As to the Tenjinshinyo ryu from what I can tell from the demos I have seen the tenjin guys do, there is not a lot of connection left. Our methods of practice and the focus of the ryu seem to diverge. We are randori focused and it seems the Yabe were fond of ne-waza.

If you want specifics and copies of the articles contact me directly.

Aaron Fields
www.seattle-jujutsu.org

**KIT** · 02-19-2005, 20:55

Aaron-

Is there a weapons syllabus in Yabe-ryu? If so, is it primarily defense against weapons, use of weapons, and/or both?

And - any connection you know of with jujutsuka and fighter of the same period Taro Miyake?

**Aaron T Fields** · 02-20-2005, 12:51

Kit,

Not really much weapon stuff at all. As to the connection to Miyake, I am not sure, but I don't think so. Is there some information you have that suggests connection between them? I have a number of newspapers adds and articles (some of the articles via Dave Lowery,) as well as four of the five books the Yabe brothers put out. But then again, I may have missed something as I tend to be more to the "go out and twist arms" and not point for point history. If you have any information I would be interested in getting copies of it.

The guys of that era and the mindset, to head out to twist some arms for fun, didn't really concern themselves with keeping history.

**KIT** · 02-20-2005, 15:36

No info on it, was curious though due to the predilection for newaza you mentioned. Miyake was another "arm twister" and connected with Tani through the Tanabes of Fusen-ryu - more arm twisters. Because of that and a connection to New York, I was wondering if they had crossed paths.

Thanks for the info.

**Aaron T Fields** · 02-20-2005, 19:43

Kit,

It is likely they did if he was running in the New York area between 1905 and 1912 or so.

Aaron Fields

**chrismoon** · 02-23-2005, 06:27

My main emphasis is Bitchu-den Takenouchi Ryu (takeuchi) . A school that dates back to 1532 in modern day Okayama. It is known for it's kogusoku and jujutsu but is a sogo bujutsu that includes a lot of everything. More info here:
http://www.furyu.com/wayne/Seifukan/...hi/Tryu02.html

Why did I choose this you ask? Because I like it and because the highest ranking teacher outside of Japan lives 4 blocks from me.

I also play around with a Hontai Yoshin Ryu study group, BJJ, and judo.

**Mekugi** · 02-26-2005, 08:21

Originally Posted by chrismoon

Why did I choose this you ask? Because I like it and because the highest ranking teacher outside of Japan lives 4 blocks from me.

Show off

.

How long have you been studying now??

**RickMatz** · 02-26-2005, 12:06

Originally Posted by chrismoon

Why did I choose this you ask? Because I like it and because the highest ranking teacher outside of Japan lives 4 blocks from me.

I don't think it matters so much what you study, so much as training under the best teacher available.

**Mekugi** · 02-26-2005, 12:20

Mr. Muromoto is a good one. I think he would be well worth looking into regardless of what he is doing.

Originally Posted by RickMatz

I don't think it matters so much what you study, so much as training under the best teacher available.

**morpheus** · 03-01-2005, 13:58

Hello folks, first time poster. I typically am on the e-budo boards. I am a student of Hontai Yoshin ryu jujutsu. I train in Louisville, Kentucky under Brian Barnes sensei. Chris, who do you train HYR with in Hawaii? I would love to chat with you via email regarding the art and your opinion and experiences.
Jeff Brown