What does aikijujitsu Question.....

**manofleisure** · 02-14-2005 15:25

What is aikijujitsu all about?

I am thinking abouttrying a free class at a school that offers aikijujitsu and jujitsu as seperate courses.What might be the diffeences between these classes and are these arts anything like aikido since aikido is not an art I have any interest in trying out from what I have seen of it.

The instructor says it is mizu-ryu jujitsu and that it would have a large component of street type techniques.I am looking for an art with a good mixture
of grappling,striking,joint locking-my favorite and this is why I have chosen to
maybe seek out japanese arts.

Can anyone help me with my question, thanks

**Toby Threadgill** · 02-14-2005 23:05

Uhhh Mano?

Since you are in the Austin, Texas are you sure the art you are investigating is not Himizu ryu instead of Mizu ryu? If it is, I suggest reading the following threads over on e-budo from beginning to end.

http://www.e-budo.com/vbulletin/show...ht=Chuck+Greer

http://www.e-budo.com/vbulletin/show...5&pagenumber=1

Also check out the this discussion by an ex-member

http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...093#post561093

**gr455h0pp3r** · 02-15-2005 08:05

aikido origionated from aikijujutsu.
www.daito-ryu.com = good aikijujutsu info

as for just "jujutsu" i have not looked into this art much myself, some of the basic techniques i have seen look quite applicable.

**DragonMind** · 02-15-2005 08:17

ManofLeisure,

Welcome to BudoSeek! Simple rule, please add your full name to all posts. Go to User CP and add to your signature for the easy way.

**manofleisure** · 02-15-2005 10:30

The art is indeed Mizu Ryu

the obviously new webpage is mizu-ryu.net

The atemi-ryu dojo in San Antonio reffered me to him since he was in my area.

**gr455h0pp3r** · 02-15-2005 11:11

manofleisure,

from what you say your looking for: Hapkido sounds "fitting"

**Toby Threadgill** · 02-15-2005 12:46

Roberto,

Well if the Atemi ryu guys recommened the Mizu ryu guys that sends up red flags anyway. Check out:

http://www.swordforumbugei.com/phpBB...pic.php?t=1483

http://www.swordforumbugei.com/phpBB...pic.php?t=2816

There are some very talented people in the Austin area. Rick Fine of Kim Soo Martial Arts heads a Daito ryu aikijujutsu study group operating under the authority of Daito ryu hombu-cho Katsuykui Kondo and teaches a style of Hapkido, this might be ideal.

Also Stef Finley operates a Shindo Yoshin Kai Dojo in nearby Elgin, Texas.

If your looking for a modern system there are some excellent Judoka, BJJ and MMA guys in Austin as well.

FYI...Anyone claiming to teach aikijujutsu who is not directly linked to Daito ryu (not aikido) in some way is almost certainly not teaching real aikijujutsu. Most dojo's claiming to teach aikijujutsu are teaching something they made up that they call aikijujutsu.

**manofleisure** · 03-01-2005 11:24

Does anyone have any suggestions on individuals that train in small groups away from commercial schools that live here in the austin area.I had one friend that taught H....ryu something but I lost his contact information.He said his school was in the hyde park area here in central austin,tx.His name was john.

besides judo in round rock and brazillian jujitsu there is no other types of jujitsu in austin it seems.

Help please

**Lee82mark4** · 03-06-2005 11:07

besides judo in round rock and brazillian jujitsu there is no other types of jujitsu in austin it seems.

You have a problem, then. If you really want it you may have to travel a bit. Sacrifice is something to consider. As Toby recommended, join the judo dojo while you decide what you really want to do.

Mark

**Jahun** · 03-08-2005 09:50

Roberto,

Austin full of diverse people and jujutsu. As Threadgill Sensei pointed out there is Takamura Ha Shindo Yoshin ryu. Stef is a very good teacher.

I am friends with the Hakko ryu teacher here. Daito ryu study group is here. Various american style jujutsu. Of course, you could always learn Budo Taijutsu by the number of Ninpo schools around. If you want to leave the japanese spetrum. There is Shifu Hwang who teaches Shuai Chiao, very much like jujutsu. When I watched their class I notice A LOT of techniques I learned in jujutsu.

There is a lot going on here. It really depends on what YOU'RE looking for. Threadgill Sensei told you a couple places and you reply with
"besides judo in round rock and brazillian jujitsu there is no other types of jujitsu in austin it seems."

So is it safe to say you're not interested in traditional Japanese arts?

Gambatte,
jahun

**manofleisure** · 03-08-2005 10:04

[QUOTE=Jahun]Roberto,

Austin full of diverse people and jujutsu. As Threadgill Sensei pointed out there is Takamura Ha Shindo Yoshin ryu. Stef is a very good teacher.

I am friends with the Hakko ryu teacher here. Daito ryu study group is here. Various american style jujutsu. Of course, you could always learn Budo Taijutsu by the number of Ninpo schools around. If you want to leave the japanese spetrum. There is Shifu Hwang who teaches Shuai Chiao, very much like jujutsu. When I watched their class I notice A LOT of techniques I learned in jujutsu.

There is a lot going on here. It really depends on what YOU'RE looking for. Threadgill Sensei told you a couple places and you reply with
"besides judo in round rock and brazillian jujitsu there is no other types of jujitsu in austin it seems."

So is it safe to say you're not interested in traditional Japanese arts?

I have checked out the Hakko Ryu Group and very much liked the group and the instructor.
I contacted Rick Fine and he suggested I study his other art at the school were he teaches.
I looked into Stef Finley but could only find an email link to his arts home page.I sent an email to this site but I do not know how often he checks his email there.
I am curious of the Shuai Chiao but when I tried to contact these persons on there webpage all I got wa an old email address that was no longer working.

Would love to try some judo but cost is a major factor for my training,so adding gas to the equation along with my V-8 car will not work at this time for me, sorry.

**Jahun** · 03-08-2005 11:05

Roberto,

I am a student of Finley Sensei so I'll ask him if he got any emails for you. Just to let you know, we train in Austin. For right now anyway.

As far as Mr. Fine, I use to study with his teacher Grand Master Kim in Katy when I was young. My brother (12) is now training with Grand Master Kim. They are teaching him some really good stuff. I think he will be very well off with this foundation. Kim Soo Karate incoperates striking, throwing, grappling, etc.. It has Hapkido built right into the mix. Mr. Fine who be a good choice because he can expand on the hapkido with his training in Daito ryu. Also a very nice man.

John is a great guy. I don't think you could go wrong with him.

the best way I found to reach Shifu Hwang is through his disscusion board (John is there a lot, too.) or his telephone #. Shifu Hwang is our family herbalist.

an alternative idea would be to check out UTs informal classes. You pay per semester. I don't know how much their judo club charges, but when I did Kendo there it was like $75 for 6 months of training. Great deal.

If you like, PM me with what your looking for and where at in Austin you are. Maybe I can help?

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